I am apalled at how James Hoggan acts like a climate expert and exerts his huffy point of view as a spin doctor aka “PR expert” and people follow his swill hook line and sinker. Read the following post in a Canadian online newspaper, then read my reply.
May 28, 2010
James Hoggan.Co-founder desmogblog.com
Posted: May 6, 2010 02:39 PM Freak April Rain Showers Hit Canadian Arctic
While the Gulf of Mexico continues to choke on oil from a man-made disaster, the Arctic is experiencing another form of man-made onslaught thanks to climate change.
Late last month, British explorers hiking in the Canadian Arctic reported that their ice base off Ellef Ringnes Island had been hit by a three-minute rain shower. A team of Canadian scientists camped about 145 km west also reported being hit by rain at the same time.
Pen Hadow, the British team’s expedition director, told Reuters, “It’s definitely a shocker … the general feeling within the polar community is that rainfall in the high Canadian Arctic in April is a freak event.”
Hadow, whose team is gathering data on the effects of climate change on the Arctic Ocean in the Catlin Arctic Survey, said that “scientists would tell us that we can expect increasingly to experience these sorts of outcomes as the climate warms.” But the group was not expecting such a sudden reminder of the consequences of a warming Arctic.
Ice base manager Paul Ramsden said, “It is obviously quite worrying when you are camped out on ice. I felt distinctly nervous for a while because the consequences of getting wet here can be serious.”
And the rain isn’t the only indicator that things are out of whack in the North.
Reuters reports: “Hadow said the team carrying out the carbon dioxide experiments had noticed that ice was abnormally thin and was moving around more than they expected. The winds were stronger than usual.”
Tyler Fish, another team member, told CBC that “We worry that if it’s too warm maybe some of the scientific samples will start to thaw … or the food will get too warm and spoil.”
“We have been told there will be more unpredicted events like this as the climate of the region warms. Our team up there have already reported many locals people at Resolute have also been commenting on the unusual warmth of the winter this year,” Pen Hadow added.
The Arctic is heating up three times more quickly than the rest of the Earth, and scientists have linked the higher temperatures to global warming pollution.
Scientists working in the Arctic say the thick multiyear ice covering the Arctic Ocean has essentially vanished, and U.S. data shows the 2009 ice cover was the third-lowest on record, after 2007 and 2008.
David Phillips, senior climatologist with Environment Canada, described the freak rain in the High Arctic in April as “really bizarre,” noting that 50 to 60 years of historical weather data show no signs of rainfall ever occurring in April in the High Arctic.
“My business is weird, wild and wacky weather, and this is up there among fish falling from the sky or Niagara Falls running dry,” Phillips told CBC News.
here is the link to go respond yourself –
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-hoggan/freak-april-rain-showers_b_566425.html#postComment
My Response to Mr. Hoggan:Yes a thousand times yes…. As Steve 41 said in his response to Mr. Hoggan, this indeed is, a perfect example of the difference between weather and climate. If you look at the HAD/CRUT temperature findings rather than the temp’s posted by Phil Jones from the CRU which put out extremely twisted and falsified records, proven time and again in dozens of articles and peer reviewed documents, the weather is actually cooling globally not warming, and has been since the beginning of the 21st Century.
Don’t let Hoggan fool you, he’s not a science expert, his only training in global warming admittedly on the back cover of his book comes from Al Gore. He also happens to sit on Al Gore’s Canadian version of “The Climate Project”. His website doesn’t focus on the science it slings mud, Ad Homonyms, and Red Herrings at perfectly good scientists in order to remove focus from the facts which are that global warming is a myth. That is his day job after all, he’s a famous PR man. By the way, this is not an Ad homonym as it is telling the direct truth that’s in print and mentioned in Mr. Hoggan’s book by James himself.
Does the climate change on Earth? Yes of course it does, always has and always will.
Is there a catastrophic change on the way? Not in the form of warming.
While there was this freak rainstorm in Canada, there was about 6 feet of freak snow showers dumped in Utah, in numerous places, this spring. That’s very freakish. The Pacific Northwest United States, where I live, has been very much colder, and wetter than normal this spring.
Let’s focus on real facts here. Oh and while we’re focused on facts, let’s set the facts straight about Arctic temperature modeling in Canada to the East or Alaska to the West, shall we?
First of all we’ve only been able to get absolute scientific data from this area faithfully and accurately for this area for about the last 25-30 years maximum not 50+ as Mr. Hoggan states. This is such a remote area that short of one or two thermometers which DOES NOT denote a scientific data base There was no real scientific study before really the last 20 years, when the global warming scare drummed up millions in grants for those willing to look for signs of imminent warming.
Secondly let’s look at the fact that from Hudson’s Bay West to the Alaskan border it has been so cold and so icy for the last 5 years, that the Fish and Game biologist team that follows Polar bears tell us that 2 of 4 Hudson Bay Polar bear herds have been on the down-cline. It has been so cold, their main staple, seals, have been staying out of the area, and so the PB herds are suffering because of cold temperatures on a grand scale not warming temperatures.
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Posted: May 27, 2010 in My BS (Bad Science) detector, Politics, ScienceTags: America, Canada, climate change, commentary, Debate, Editorial, Environment, global warming, Green, News, Opinion, policy, Politics, Science, Senior Citizens, Technology, Truth, USA
I am apalled at how James Hoggan acts like a climate expert and exerts his huffy point of view as a spin doctor aka “PR expert” and people follow his swill hook line and sinker. Read the following post in a Canadian online newspaper, then read my reply.
May 28, 2010
James Hoggan.Co-founder desmogblog.com
Posted: May 6, 2010 02:39 PM Freak April Rain Showers Hit Canadian Arctic
While the Gulf of Mexico continues to choke on oil from a man-made disaster, the Arctic is experiencing another form of man-made onslaught thanks to climate change.
Late last month, British explorers hiking in the Canadian Arctic reported that their ice base off Ellef Ringnes Island had been hit by a three-minute rain shower. A team of Canadian scientists camped about 145 km west also reported being hit by rain at the same time.
Pen Hadow, the British team’s expedition director, told Reuters, “It’s definitely a shocker … the general feeling within the polar community is that rainfall in the high Canadian Arctic in April is a freak event.”
Hadow, whose team is gathering data on the effects of climate change on the Arctic Ocean in the Catlin Arctic Survey, said that “scientists would tell us that we can expect increasingly to experience these sorts of outcomes as the climate warms.” But the group was not expecting such a sudden reminder of the consequences of a warming Arctic.
Ice base manager Paul Ramsden said, “It is obviously quite worrying when you are camped out on ice. I felt distinctly nervous for a while because the consequences of getting wet here can be serious.”
And the rain isn’t the only indicator that things are out of whack in the North.
Reuters reports: “Hadow said the team carrying out the carbon dioxide experiments had noticed that ice was abnormally thin and was moving around more than they expected. The winds were stronger than usual.”
Tyler Fish, another team member, told CBC that “We worry that if it’s too warm maybe some of the scientific samples will start to thaw … or the food will get too warm and spoil.”
“We have been told there will be more unpredicted events like this as the climate of the region warms. Our team up there have already reported many locals people at Resolute have also been commenting on the unusual warmth of the winter this year,” Pen Hadow added.
The Arctic is heating up three times more quickly than the rest of the Earth, and scientists have linked the higher temperatures to global warming pollution.
Scientists working in the Arctic say the thick multiyear ice covering the Arctic Ocean has essentially vanished, and U.S. data shows the 2009 ice cover was the third-lowest on record, after 2007 and 2008.
David Phillips, senior climatologist with Environment Canada, described the freak rain in the High Arctic in April as “really bizarre,” noting that 50 to 60 years of historical weather data show no signs of rainfall ever occurring in April in the High Arctic.
“My business is weird, wild and wacky weather, and this is up there among fish falling from the sky or Niagara Falls running dry,” Phillips told CBC News.
here is the link to go respond yourself –
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-hoggan/freak-april-rain-showers_b_566425.html#postComment
My Response to Mr. Hoggan:Yes a thousand times yes…. As Steve 41 said in his response to Mr. Hoggan, this indeed is, a perfect example of the difference between weather and climate. If you look at the HAD/CRUT temperature findings rather than the temp’s posted by Phil Jones from the CRU which put out extremely twisted and falsified records, proven time and again in dozens of articles and peer reviewed documents, the weather is actually cooling globally not warming, and has been since the beginning of the 21st Century.
Don’t let Hoggan fool you, he’s not a science expert, his only training in global warming admittedly on the back cover of his book comes from Al Gore. He also happens to sit on Al Gore’s Canadian version of “The Climate Project”. His website doesn’t focus on the science it slings mud, Ad Homonyms, and Red Herrings at perfectly good scientists in order to remove focus from the facts which are that global warming is a myth. That is his day job after all, he’s a famous PR man. By the way, this is not an Ad homonym as it is telling the direct truth that’s in print and mentioned in Mr. Hoggan’s book by James himself.
Does the climate change on Earth? Yes of course it does, always has and always will.
Is there a catastrophic change on the way? Not in the form of warming.
While there was this freak rainstorm in Canada, there was about 6 feet of freak snow showers dumped in Utah, in numerous places, this spring. That’s very freakish. The Pacific Northwest United States, where I live, has been very much colder, and wetter than normal this spring.
Let’s focus on real facts here. Oh and while we’re focused on facts, let’s set the facts straight about Arctic temperature modeling in Canada to the East or Alaska to the West, shall we?
First of all we’ve only been able to get absolute scientific data from this area faithfully and accurately for this area for about the last 25-30 years maximum not 50+ as Mr. Hoggan states. This is such a remote area that short of one or two thermometers which DOES NOT denote a scientific data base There was no real scientific study before really the last 20 years, when the global warming scare drummed up millions in grants for those willing to look for signs of imminent warming.
Secondly let’s look at the fact that from Hudson’s Bay West to the Alaskan border it has been so cold and so icy for the last 5 years, that the Fish and Game biologist team that follows Polar bears tell us that 2 of 4 Hudson Bay Polar bear herds have been on the down-cline. It has been so cold, their main staple, seals, have been staying out of the area, and so the PB herds are suffering because of cold temperatures on a grand scale not warming temperatures.
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